Puff Vinyl on 6oz leather? Y/N?

I have an application for gold glitter puff vinyl on 6 oz leather (relatively firm) and have had zero success. Unless i am reading the “puff” technology incorrectly, it appears that the puff is created by the vinyl shringing and that causes the fabric and vinyl to form a debossed form on the surface of the fabric, BUT leather is not like fabric and the puff vinyl just sits on the leather like any HTV?

Need to figure out if I am wasting my time and just stick with HTV Glitter for my projects.

Thanks!
Bob

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I think the material needs to be flexible for puff vinyl to puff

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That seems to be the case. The vinyl doesn’t actually puff but shrinks causing the the fabric and vinyl to bellow out. That’s my guess.

Bob

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Yes, ai think that’s how puff works, it need to be able to pull-out what it’s being attached to for it puff

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If you could post a picture so we can see what’s happening. To add pictures it’s the small arrow heading up down in the right corner when you write something

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What are you using to press the puff on to your fabric?

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Yes this is correct. Same thought

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A 15" x 15" press, calibrated for time and temperature. High pressure at recommended time and temperature.

Thanks!

Bob

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A 15" x 15" press, calibrated for time and temperature. High pressure at recommended time and temperature.

Not pressing on fabric, leather.

Thanks!

Bob

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So the puff won’t work on the leather, but it should have worked on the fabric.

Did you pre press the fabric to get the moisture out? Moisture in the fabric can make it not puff

Also instead of using the pressing pillow mat, you could swap that out for a firm mat or a piece of wood board.

The time a temperature settings that came with the instructions are a guide. Some testing might need to be done to get the right settings for your set up. Reasons for this is you may have different equipment then what the manufacturer used, it could also be that your local climate is hotter or colder than where there factory is. So you may need to adjust the time and temp up and down till it works for you.

To test, I get an old t shirt, and cut up squares of the puff I’m testing. Start at the guided settings and then start changing them up or down. I always change the temp first before changing the time.

Sometimes puff also needs a double press. The second press usually happens after you remove the carrier sheet.

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I tried it all. I have a commercial press I originally purchased for heat laminating linings in leather products I make. Spent a day on it and no problem to get a puff on fabric after overcooking it the first attempt, but that’s not helpful. I have to have it puff on mid weight leather with no flex. I have been planning on using gold glitter but puff would be superior.

I just think it’s no the way the technology works… The vinyl shrinks and the fabric has no where to go but out, then the vinyl cools and it remains puffed out.

Probably developed when a batch of vinyl shrank when heated and everything puffed out.

Thanks,
Bob

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Yes, I agree. Puff won’t work on leather. You could try normal glitter htv tho? You could even do a solid htv colour using an offset and then the glitter htv. Make it a little more dimensional

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Thanks. I started testing with HTV Gold and Silver glitter and it worked great. That gave me the inspiration to try puff, with no success. I have been using Heat n Bond for over 10 years to bod sued and fabric linings and it works fantastically! No fails in thousands of products delivered. I am having similar success with HTV. With the right temps and pressure, it’s not going anywhere!

Bob

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Found this on siser IG. Since leather is a stiff material, puff won’t be able to “puff” properly with it

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